Lesson in Liberalism

This morn­ing, I was drawn into quite an inter­est­ing debate with two lib­eral Twits…ones that appar­ently can’t think for them­selves.  Read the exchange below (copied directly from Twit­ter) and see who’s drink­ing their kool-aid, one glass right after another.  The first post, which started the whole thing, was by a LibTwit named @clairecelsi (@‘s omit­ted for clarity):

@clairecelsi:  Get­ting sick of read­ing about all the peo­ple who don’t believe Obama is an Amer­i­can cit­i­zen. It’s proven, get over it, move on.

Me (@ericleeus):  How has it been proven? Have you seen his Birth Cer­tifi­cate? Do you have a copy? If not, then it hasn’t.

@clairecelsi:   The doc­u­ment is in stor­age in Hawaii. The guy in charge of it says its authen­tic. That’s good enough for me. YOU go see it.

@ericleeus:  So I sup­pose if Obama told you the sky was pink, you would just believe it right? Sorry, not good enough.

@clairecelsi:  Chang­ing the sub­ject? Typ­i­cal stu­pid­ity. I’m on to your tactics.

@ericleeus:  No, it’s not chang­ing the sub­ject. It’s called illus­tra­tive comparison.

@ericleeus:  And you’re call­ing me “stu­pid”? That’s a typ­i­cal Demo­c­rat for you — call names if you can’t debate..I’m on to YOUR tactics.

And here’s where the sec­ond LibTwit chimes in…

@glynnwilcox:  actu­ally call­ing names is a tired [sic] and true GOP tac­tic. Mostly call­ing some­one unamer­i­can and the like ( :: ) send a bandaid 4 #hc

@ericleeus:  You have your par­ties con­fused — It’s the Democ­rats that have been call­ing peo­ple “Un-American.” I can give examples.

@ericleeus:  Tom Hanks, Nancy Pelosi, “Chucky” Shumer, Patrick Leahy, etc. — want me to go on?

@glynnwilcox:  so let me get this straight. After 8 years of any­time there was opo­si­tion any­one was called unamer­i­can. Ohhh okay so now it’s dif[ferent]

@ericleeus:  I don’t think so, bub…It was the DEMOCRATS call­ing the Repub­li­cans Anti-American & and war crim­i­nals for 8 years.

@glynnwilcox:  so water­board­ing = good Amer­i­can value? Really?

@ericleeus (I re-tweeted his asi­nine state­ment):  RT @glyn­nwilcox @eri­cleeus so water­board­ing = good Amer­i­can value? Really? ME: If it saves Amer­i­can lives, then YES! (It’s NOT torture.)

@ericleeus:  Way to change the sub­ject there, bub.

And that’s where the exchange ended…As you can see, when their argu­ment fell apart, one LibTwit resorted to name-calling and the other resorted to re-hashing a com­pletely off-topic debate — one that doesn’t “hold water”…he really did change the subject.

So class, the les­son here is — stick to facts when debat­ing lib­er­als.  They can’t stand it, and they can’t stand toe-to-toe with you.  You’ll win the debate every time.

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